10 Aug 16:39:30
[Broadband] Slight TalkTalk congestion in evenings - Open
Details
Posted: 17 Jun 15:24:16
We've seen very slight packet loss on a number of TalkTalk connected lines this week in the evenings. This looks to be congestion, it's may show up on our CQM graphs as a few pixels of red at the top of the graph between 7pm and midnight. We have an incident open with TalkTalk. We moved traffic to our Telehouse interconnect on Friday afternoon and Friday evening looked to be better. This may mean that th econgestion is related to TalkTalk in Harbour Exchange, but it's a little too early to tell at the moment. We are monitoring this and will update again after the weekend.
Update
19 Jun 16:49:34

TalkTalk did some work on the Telehouse side of our interconnect on Friday as follows:

"The device AA connect into is a chassis with multiple cards and interfaces creating a virtual switch. The physical interface AA plugged into was changed to another physical interface. We suspect this interface to be faulty as when swapped to another it looks to have resolved the packet loss."

We will be testing both of our interconnects individually over the next couple of days.

Update
20 Jun 10:29:05
TalkTalk are doing some work on our Harbour Exchange side today. Much like the work they did on the Telehouse side, they are moving our port. This will not affect customers though.
Update
28 Jun 20:46:34

Sadly, we are still seeing very low levels of packetloss on some TalkTalk connected circuits in the evenings. We have raised this with TalkTalk today, they have investigated this afternoon and say: "Our Network team have been running packet captures at Telehouse North and replicated the packet loss. We have raised this into our vendor as a priority and are due an update tomorrow."

We'll keep this post updated.

Update
29 Jun 22:12:17

Update from TalkTalk regarding their investigations today:- Our engineering team have been working through this all day with the Vendor. I have nothing substantial for you just yet, I have been told I will receive a summary of today's events this evening but I expect the update to be largely "still under investigation". Either way I will review and fire an update over as soon as I receive it. Our Vendor are committing to a more meaningful update by midday tomorrow as they continue to work this overnight.

Update
1 Jul 09:39:48
Update from TT: Continued investigation with Juniper, additional PFE checks performed. Currently seeing the drops on both VC stacks at THN and Hex. JTAC have requested additional time to investigate the issue. They suspect they have an idea what the problem is, however they need to go through the data captures from today to confirm that it is a complete match. Actions Juniper - Review logs captured today, check with engineering. Some research time required, Juniper hope to have an update by CoB Monday. Discussions with engineering will be taking place during this time.
Update
2 Jul 21:19:57

Here is an example - the loss is quite small on individual lines, but as we are seeing this sort of loss on many circuits and the same time (evenings) it make this more severe. It's only due to to our constant monitoring that this gets picked up.

Update
3 Jul 21:47:31
Today's update from Talktalk: "JTAC [TT's vendor's support] have isolated the issue to one FPC [(Flexible PIC Concentrator] and now need Juniper Engineering to investigate further... unfortunately Engineering are US-based and have a public holiday which will potentially delay progress... Actions: Juniper - Review information by [TalkTalk] engineering – Review PRs - if this is a match to a known issue or it's new. Some research time required, Juniper hope to have an update by Thursday"
Update
7 Jul 08:41:26
Update from TalkTalk yesterday evening: "Investigations have identified a limitation when running a mix mode VC (EX4200’s and EX4550's), the VC cable runs at 16gbps rather than 32gbps (16gbps each way). This is why we are seeing slower than expected speeds between VC’s. Our engineering team are working with the vendor exploring a number of solutions."
Update
17 Jul 14:29:29

Saturday 15th and Sunday 16th evenings were a fair bit worse than previous evenings. On Saturday and Sunday evening we saw higher levels of packet loss (between 1% and 3% on many lines) and we also saw slow single TCP thread speeds much like we saw in April. We did contact TalkTalk over the weekend and this has been blamed on a faulty card that TalkTalk had on Thursday that was replaced but has caused traffic imbalance on this part of the network.

We expect things to improve but we will be closely monitoring this on Monday evening (17th) and will report back on Tuesday.

Update
22 Jul 20:23:24
TalkTalk are planning network hardware changes relating to this in the early hours of 1st August. Details here: https://aastatus.net/2414
Update
1 Aug 10:42:58
TalkTalk called us shortly after 9am to confirm that they had completed the work in Telehouse successfully. We will move traffic over to Telehouse later today and will be reporting back the outcome on this status post over the following days.
Update
3 Aug 11:23:55
TalkTalk confirmed that they have completed the work in Harbour Exchange successfully. Time will tell if these sets of major work have helped with the problems we've been seeing on the TalkTalk network; we will be reporting back the outcome on this status post early next week.
Update
10 Aug 16:39:30
The packetloss issue has been looking better since TalkTalk completed their work. We are still wanting to monitor this for another week or so before closing this incident.
Started 14 Jun 15:00:00